9XA Stanley Meyer PWM

 

Meyer 9xa PWM  makes a 50% duty, The 9xa is 2 8xa, designed to be used with a transistor, and make a frequency and then gate that same frequency.

 

I'm finding that the 9XA has a max freq output after the opto-coupler of 1.41KHz max.

 

This is on PWM-A with switch-2 ON. With switch-1 ON, the freq seems so high,

 

that the opto-coupler does not have the frequency response to discern the pulses. I tested using 9V at the opto-coupler (maybe need a higher voltage)? With freq doubling after the chokes, the freq will be closer to 3KHz.

 

I'm thinking that I need to be closer to 4KHz to get to resonance. Do you get similar outputs on the 9XAs that you use? Never the less, I'll try it out on my cell setup once I've put together the SCR and some chokes. it is probibly your transistor. not the opto coupler. yes the opto has a top speed. it is higher then 1khz

 

Thanks. Yes, tested them, higher than 1khz. Finally, figured out how to adjust the blue trimmer knobs on pmw-a, so that on switch 2, the top end is about 5.8khz, which registers properly after the opto.coupler. At switch 1, freq gets to high for opto, so I'll stick with switch 2 on pwm-a.

 

if you want faster, you can change a cap and it will go faster

 

This is Stan's Electrical Polarization Process Unit signal on the scope. The other signal is replicationsignal on the Rigol scope.

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Sourcing 9XA Parts

 

4 Channel Band Rotary Switch Selector 2-Pole 4-Position on that frequency switch

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1k-2k-5k-10k-100k-100-50k-20k-500-ohm-Potentiometer-pot-10Turn-Counting-Dial-mah-/321089650019?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4ac26f3d63

 

any rotary switch should do the job. if it has more then 4 positions......just connect the channels not in use to the last one in use. then when you forget, and turn it there

 

Variac 

 

0-270V variac 5A, would it offer me any advantages or better production of gas? Would the inductor coil & SCR be capable of running it at the 270v?

the opto coupler and resistor stan used will fail at some voltage you will see it on your scope, the gate will be lost 120 volts is no propblem, as it is designed for that. i have a 350 volt transformer,

 

i just plug it into my variac. you can change your opto or the resistor to get different higher voltages...or make a resistor voltage devider for the opto. a voltage devider would be like 2 of those resistors, one goes to pos and the other to neg, then pull power from the center of the 2 resistor. if the resistors are the same value, then you split the voltage in 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_divider there is no limit to what you can do with electronics.  just because you do something that did not copy meyer, does not mean it will not work. just remember, the voltage will go up passed what you put in.

 

SCR Up Grade to make change to high Variac 

Changes to the SCR board to allow the 0-270v on the Variac Transformer.

well over rated for what I would need it for! NTE5531 25 Amp 800 Volt SCR (QTY 1 ea) $7.50

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250277119863?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

Shoul work. and be over rated

Here are the folowing of my experiments on the SCR board and a bifilar coil : How to compute the gate frequency in order to build a specific pulse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OPlubNptA

Here under a memo. 

what I take from this experience is that I need a precise frequency if I want a proper functionning of my circuit. Juste pulsing a gate at 33 Hz is not enought, 33.30 Hz or 33.36 Hz make a big difference in the stabilisation of the amp consumption because the more the pulse is regular (the number of pulses is an integer ) the more the amp consumption is stable.

What I don't know is "what is a regular amp consumption on this type of circuit ?" in other words, do I properly set the circuit or do I have other things to work before going further ?

 

Need more cells now and to build a VIC.

Hum...   there is something wrong in my theory  ... I have tried to make a 7 pulses wave form with this formula but I got only 5. 
As the frequency generator output is a 50% duty cycle, the gate duration is equal to the train pulses duration. My formula is wrong

So back to the worktable  

 

In fact it's

fg = (2 x Fw )/ 2n ( because of the 50% duty cycle)

It can also be adjusted for variable duty cycle. ( ...back to the worktable...)

might be:

fg = (2 x Fw x D) / n

 Where :

fg : Gate frequency

Fw : Wall frequency

D : Duty cycle

n : Number of pulses in the pulse train

 

So for 50% duty cycle ,

- a 5 pulses pulse train give us :

fg = (2 * 50 * 0.5)/5

fg = 10 Hz 

 - a 6 pulses pulse train give us :

fg = (2 * 50 * 0.5)/6

fg = 8.33 Hz

 - a 2 pulses pulse train give us

fg = (2 * 50 * 0.5)/2

fg = 25 Hz

 

9XA   Has the 9XD Power Supply Built in 

9XA and SCR Sync Video 

9XA Gated Pulse Train 

9XA addendum

this circuit addendum is for those who want the “gated” pulse not just a 9XB output. 
if you like this I also have another circuit that does not use the 555 as an oscillator 

ok on to the explanation: 

the two mosfets are the BS170 that’s a small 
TO-92 case, and are good for up to 500mA 

the output is at the arrow. 

the two resistors in parallel are 100 ohm 1 watt, and are for biasing the mosfet. currently the circuit is running at 240mA, and is capable to drive whatever you want, 2N3055, or IRFP260N that is capable of 200V, 50A with a max of 300Watts 

make sure you tie all the grounds together, or you’ll get some weird scope traces. 

if you’re interested in the non 555 oscillator, 
that has adjustment for frequency, duty cycle, and amplitude. post a reply with your email address, because of the limit of file size I can’t post it here. 

thanks mike

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this is the explanation for the circuit: 
comparators in oscillator configuration 

firstly you don’t need more than one decade /SN74LS90 because the frequency group can be changed by using jumpers on the header pins to select different freq. groups. this is the same for the gate freq. 

the main or resonant freq. is run through the decade 
to maintain the 50% duty cycle. 

resistors R24, 26, and 27 need to be set for brightness due to the oscillations the resistor will be lower in value make the LED brighter. 

resistor values will be the same for the gate circuit, but the capacitors will be larger for a lower freq. 

both chips are the same LM311, I recommend using 
separate chips so as to keep the noise down. 

the reason there are no values capacitors, is because need to selected caps find your resonant freq. 

I recommend using a separate 5V regulator for the decade and a 12V regulator to supply the rest of the circuit, to give greater output. you could also use the totem pole mosfet driver circuit that Max posted to boost output. I like it. 

R20, and 21 are the same 100 ohm 1 watt resistors as in the beginning of this tread. 

connectors J1 through J8 are for header pins to use jumpers to select frequency groups, simpler that a multi position switch, more that one jumper can be used to add caps to increase capacitance and lower freq. 

decade/ SN74LS90 is connected the same way that Max has posted for the 9XA and 9XB. 

thanks, if you have any questions you can email me at snaprollin@yahoo.com 
the name is mike 
good luck I hope this helps, I have more circuits to add as soon as I can get to them. 

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