Hydrogen Hot Rod Nano Bubble Hydrogen Fuel Cell. 

New the 3d STL Auto Cad files for the Hydrogen Hot Rod Stanley Meyer 11 Cell   done BUILD BABY BUILD stl cnc files spread it share it 
  
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Electrolyzer 11 Cell Stanley Meyer

 

When treating the SM type cell with high voltage after the voltage drop the cell will not return to 0V.

It will hold the charge for a latency time until it drops to zero. Such as a Water Capacitor.

 

One more thing I just noticed, and would like confirmation on, that after watching the '93 lecture Stanley explains, that when you reach full voltage potential, maximum voltage amplitude, you switch off "5 seconds" and then by switching on again you create resonant action...

 

because when you switch off you can produce gas for 94 seconds while the voltage potential drop and therefore when you switch on again after that "5 seconds" the gas process starts off at a higher rate causing more gas production and therefore entering a resonant gas production rate and by repeating this on/off process you reach maximum applied voltage through now n step charged effect to maximum applied voltage or until the full flow rate of water into the now resonant cavity is achieved....

 

After watching the '93 lecture Stanley explain, through the Grace of God and how I under stood it, that when you reach full voltage potential, maximum voltage amplitude, you switch off "5 seconds" and then by switching on again you create resonant action... because when you switch off you can produce gas for 94 seconds while the voltage potential drop

 

and therefore when you switch on again after that "5 seconds" the gas process starts off at a higher rate causing more gas production and therefore entering a resonant gas production rate and by repeating this on/off process you reach maximum applied voltage through now n step charged effect to maximum applied voltage or until the full flow rate of water into the now resonant cavity is achieved....

 

Once ionization threshold is reached some kind of avalanche process starts. Ionization means current flow and voltage adjustment takes care for maximizing production while suppressing tendency for arcing.

 

in saying then is it obvious to have 1 high voltage transformer, and power supply pulse at 5 to 10 second intervals. with its own variable time for high voltage polarization,and vary its magnitude, up to 11 kv such as a coil in the water near the plates.and a separate control , and power source at the plates in resonance.

 

less voltages, between the plates 24 to 36 volt., low amp setting miliamps, at. 20 thousand to 40 thousand hz or is that mhz. . separate power supply, and control for self adjusting resonance of the circuit.. this is what i got out of one such patent that uses a coil as a bias. the gaps at the cells need be in spec. for tubular, and all cells 2 to 4 mm is max gap between plates.:angel

paulb=Paul Butcher 

Now Paul asked me to explain the experimental development stages that Stanley Meyer went through. 

We see in stage I that Stan used 18 inch long stainless steel tubes with a modified heavy duty alternator. 
And was able to idle the 1600 cc Volkswagen engine in the driveway. 

Note: without water injection spark plugs, 660 nm LEDs gas processor on the intake and the recycled exhausts. 

I believe Max Miller was able to achieve 300 V with his alternator demonstration on the 18 inch long stainless steel tube set. 

Now in the 3rd stage, Stan abandoned the EPG. 

And went back to elector-mechanical ROTOR PHASER. 
Producing 3 pulse phases with 10 output channels . 
With probably as many as 10 water fuel capacitors per output channel. 
That would be 100 water fuel capacitors in all. 

In stage IV the International Patent. 
Stan went shorter stainless steel tubes and higher voltages. 
Approximately 120 volts per inch on the T304 stainless steel. 

4 inches=2020 volts 
5 inches=1900 volts 
6 inches=1780 volts 
7 inches=1660 volts 
8 inches=1440 volts 
9 inches=1320 volts 
10inches=1200 volts 
11inches=1080 volts 
12 inches= 960 volts 
13 inches= 840 volts 
14 inches= 720 volts 
15 inches= 660 volts 
16 inches= 540 volts 
17 inches= 420 volts 
18 inches= 300 volts 

2.75 inches is the length T304 stainless steel that is used in the international patent. 

120 volts per inch 1 on theT304 stainless steel. 

Transducer for Monitoring Water Cell Pressure

Omega Precise Measurement Quality transducer Reads PRESSURE AND DETERMINED BY PRESSURE, ADAPTS induction RESISTANCE, AND OSCILLATIONS INPUT PULSE SO WE HAVE A CONSTANT gas production

PX176-015A5V

•±1% Interchangeability

•Sealed for Harsh Environments

•1 to 6 Vdc Output

•9 to 20 Vdc Power

•-55 to 105°C Operating Range

•Fully Calibrated and Temperature Compensated

 

SPECIFICATIONSExcitation: 9 to 20 Vdc at 15 mA (polarity protection)

Output: 1 to 6 Vdc

Input Resistance: 2 MΩ at 25 Vdc

PERFORMANCEAccuracy: ±1.0% full scale

Linearity: ±0.5% full scale

Hysteresis: ±0.25% full scale

Zero Balance: ±1% full scaleSpan

Tolerance: 5 ±0.1 Vdc

Operating Temperature Range: -55 to 105°C (-67 to 221°F)

Compensated Temperature Range: 0 to 85°C (32 to 185°F)

Thermal Zero Effect: ±0.02% rdg/°C (±0.01% rdg/°F)

Thermal Sensitivity Effect: ±0.02% rdg/°C (±0.01% rdg/°F)

Proof Pressure: 2x full scale; 1.5x over 200 psi

Burst Pressure: 20x full scale; 10x: 50 to 200 psi; 5x: 500 psi and up

CONSTRUCTIONGages: Piezoresistive on bending beam

Body/Diaphragm Material: 300 Series SS (silver, copper, nickel, cadmium brazed)

Pressure Port: 1/8-27 NPTELECTRICAL CONNECTIONCable Style: 900 mm (36") 3-lead shielded PVC

Pressure Cavity Volume: 0.091 in³Weight: 113 g (4 oz)Frequency Response: 50 Hz

 

http://www.omega.com/pptst/PX176.html

 

 

 

First Draft 

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=A5F9DB5B451D72AC%213260

 

WFC 11 BY Chris & RWGresearch.

(may not be complete)

 

SKL 

 

CathodeVersion 2013-05-12

Metric version

304 S/S material

Anode 2013-05-12.zip - 31.13 kB

 

AnodeVersion 2013-05-12

Metric version

304 S/S material

Cathode 2013-05-12.zip - 59.08 kB,

 

Going metric is Ok for me, but all the holes from Russes/Chris drawing is for imperial type threads. Can the CNC tap both types?

 

As for the material requirements it seems so far that it is:7.5" roundstock Delrin/Acetal6.5" Outside x 5.5" (5.48"?) Inner Delrin/Acteal Tube (Do they sell it in tubes?)

Cell Electrodes

Anode and Cathode 

 

Outside should be the cathode to make hydrogen there 

.

outer as cathode makes more gas , as a higher surface area as a capacitor
water may not hold the majority of capcitence and can be reduced to a minium between tubes.


confirmed by electro you tube running alternator system same result

the double layer interface of water and the cathode where charging the water occurs i.e. not throughout the bulk of the water. If that is the case it might be worthwhile having a high surface area cathode in order to maximise the capacitance or storage of charge. 

It might mean that the bulk of the water is playing no role in the process and can be done away with, 

maybe stans injector recognises this by having a very narrow area of water in active zone"Oxygen will collect at the positively-charged electrode (anode) and hydrogen will collect at the negatively-charged electrode (cathode).and that should be the outer concentric tube, these are acting as wave guide antennas and should  be tuned with he choke and coils.

Cell Connectors 

 Hand Made Bolts for cable to cells.

 

Pressure Release Top

It looks like you have machined out the socket head of the bigger screw and press fitted them together, am I right? Well done and should work just fin as long as the tolerances are just right! If there are some that might be a little loses Max motioned some silver solder.... might come in handy for filling in any joints Yes, that is exactly what I did. You want find any of these lose, the heads were pocket milled on the cnc mill to have a two thousand fit..

 

Here are the photo's of the completed connectors and installed it the cell.

 

mcmastercarr has 1/4 - 20 stainless studs and 1/4-20 staiunless flange nuts..........the flange nuts are flat.......when you machine the threaded hole, puyt a oring pocket on the hole to seat a oring, then the flat nut will seal the oring

Pressure Relief Top Cap

Version 2013-05-12

Metric Version304 S/S material

Down Load Design Files

Holes are intended for use with M4 Socket Cap screws

30 mm long.

 

 

Safety Valve Top Cap

It's designed for 1.5 mm dia O - rings. I used this chart to get the width and deep

 http://www.oringsusa.com/html/gland_design.html

 

I used the "Liquid Gland" chart.As for the spring I don't think SS is required.

 

The valve should only be activated in case of failure of the electronics, and thus not allot.EDIT:

 

The inner O -ring grove is to narrow, but it have been fixed now.

 

Safety Valve Top Cap 2013-05-11

Down Load Design Files 2 ( not Same)

 

Pictures

 

Resonant Cavity Progress 5.png - 55.21 kB, 929x844,

 

Resonant Cavity Progress 6.png - 39.55 kB, 919x835

 

Safety Valve Top Cap 2013-05-11.zip - 103.27 kB

 

 

Replications

By Stan Meyer Enthusiasts 

Note Some Seals and gaskets are done with  rubber,nylon, expoxy, bolt or water proof sealant.

all the thread holes for metric now.

 

It looks now as it mainly will be M3 and M5 or M6. Do you also want the O - rings as metric?As for the blow off valve i was first thinking to make the cover to simply sit over a purchased one.

 

But did Stan make his own? Like with a valve and a spring?I tried to make some basic calculations for a blow off valve and came up with this. Don't take it as correct calculations as I'm not sure they are.

 

It would be great if someone could verify this or point out the errors.Calculations for blow off at 20 Psi (all SL units):p = F/A (p = pressure in pascals,

 

F = Force in newtons that applies to the area A)20 Psi = 137895 pascalThe area that affects the blow off valve is (.5" dia hole) = 0.000126 m2

 

The force that act one the valve is then (F = p*A) = 137895 * 0.000126 = 17 newtonIn summary:

 

The spring need to start compressing at 17 newton applied. That would be around 1.7 kg or 3.7 lbs. ou can buy just about any size spring including force,1.7kg sounds about right,

 

it must be a S/S spring though due to corrosion!?!Don't no how long it would last if it was Stainless Steel as it is brittle when it comes to moving parts.???The O-rings will me 3m as common size, 1.5mm deep x 3mm grove on each part.

Ones the unit is finished and built, we can go down to your local O-ring specialist and get them to help you fit all the appropriate O-ring sizes.All O-rings are listed by a common code and one we have the correct fitting O-rings,then one of us can go ahead and list the part number code up in the plans, along with any other miscellaneous parts needed to complete the cell.

 

Can TRy  http://www.blender.org/ OPen Source CAD Software

ORIGINALStan Meyer WFC 

Look Very Close at the Details.

Stainless Steel 

Stan Meyer WFC 

Look Very Close at the Details.

Here is some stainless steel tubing with the exact dimensions listed in his international patent # WO 89/12704 page 7.Stainless T-304/304LSeamless Tube0.75" x 0.065" x 0.62"Stainless T-304/304LSeamless Tube0.5" x 0.065" x 0.37"

 

http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=312&step=

 

NOTES 

 

Note:1)

 

We don't have to have the "windows" on the "LOWER_BASE" if we don't want.1A) If there are no "windows" we'll need to drill a hole for the wires.

 

2) The "BODY_TOP" & "BODY_TOP_BLOCK" are designed so you can use:

 

2A) 3/4" pressure relief valve

 

http://www.pexsupply.com/Zurn-34-P1500-3-4-Calibrated-Pressure-Relief-Valve

 

2B) 1/4" Pressure Gauge

2C) 3/8" Tubing

Stainless Steel 

Costings

Look Very Close at the Details.

The idea here is to get the industry moving.

 

hi here is what I have in works for 11 cell The below is the quote of the part

 

11-CELL-UNIT-PDF-V3 for your reference :1,

 

  • ANODE OD12.7*101.6mm $32.5*11=$357.52,

  • CATHODE-OUTER-TUBE OD 19.05*69.85mm $4.5*11=$49.53,

 

  • UPPER-BASE OD177.8*101.6mm $420*1=$4204,

 

  • CELL-CAP OD25.4*38.1mm $5.5*11=$60.55,

 

  • BODY-TUBE OD165.1*185.42mm $195*1=$1956,

 

  • LOWER BASE OD177.8*76.1mm $390*1=$350

 

The other parts we'll quote them in 2 days, the drawings will be checked again, to make sure no error in production.And a quote list for all parts will be send to you.

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Document for building the 11 cell 

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Stan's Book "Birth of a New Technology" that i found to be interesting, this maybe common knowledge but i have yet to see it done via YouTube videos. I will include the pdf copy of the book that i found via Google. Also for the section in question refer to page 15 of the pdf, or 1-8 is the page number from the book. 

Light-emitting diodes arranged in a Cluster-Array (see Figure 1-11) provides and emits a narrow band 
of visible light energy into the voltage stimulated water bath. 

Note the text in bold. From what i can gather Led's are not only in the hydrogen gas gun but also in the resonant cavity. I'm just curious if this is something that is known or hasn't been seen yet. From what ive read so far if one would add leds and a extraction circuit thats just that many more electrons that could be plucked off. 

 

http://waterpoweredcar.com/pdf.files/Stanley_Meyers-WFC-Technical_Brief-FULL.pdf

Here we can see pickups on the case of the 11 cell. 

 

These could have been for water levels but due to their position and cell design it is

 

More likely these are electron extraction pickups from cell to aid the process being efficient. or both!!

 

According to the photographic evidence there are 2 different wire configuration. 
The rectangular shaped hole in the bottom of the “Harmonic Resonant Cavity” can accommodate 11 pair of wires. 
And hopefully using a solid rubber grommet with small holes to accommodate 22 wires. 
What makes sense to me is to tune the phase locked loop circuit "1" per “Water Capacitor”. 
How would it operate with 10 water capacitors in series and be able to and maintain resonance is confusing to me. 
But I feel one would would tune “1” “Voltage Intensifier Circuit” per Water Capacitor !!! 
Also note TX-3 the "enter-tap bifiller coil" is over the gap core. 
this would control the amount of feedback signal that the phase locked loop receives. 
The magnetic flux is maximum at the gap of the core and can be increased or decreased by adjusting the amount of gap. 

the purpose of the water well and water jacket is a voltage trap equalizer. 
Making sure that all 10 water capacitors receive equal amplitude positive Voltage pulses. 
Now whether you want to call the 10 gaps .0625 that are exactly 2 ½ inches in length a waveguide is okay with me. 
That is the key 10 equal length gap all receiving a perfectly balanced positive pulse voltage amplitude. 

This is the Stanley Meyer secret! 
This is the Stanley Meyer secret! 

Along with the 30° bevel and 45° bevel on the bobbins that wave shapes and sharpened the 
leading and trailing edge of the pulse allowing for 2500 uni-pulses. 
To be squeezed in that narrow timeframe of the 7 steps of step charge. 

The only other thing I can say Stanley Meyer definitely did very detailed work which speaks for itself. 
You don't need to understand the theory of operation at all you need to do is replicate what he is showing us. 
And if it wasn't for Don Gable we would never know what the inside of the harmonic resonant cavity look like or 
the component values of the Voltage Intensifier Circuit and etc. 

The device is a high power RF device, all impedances must be accounted for, 
be it the power transistor that handles the pulses to the output cables that are wound in a coaxial fashion to eliminate noise...... 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
see Stans Laws 


The voltage amplitude needs to match the length of the gap !!! 
The voltage amplitude needs to match the length of the gap !!! 
"question 2 : what prevents amp in fluxing?" 

"when a resonant condition of the circuit is locked-in by the circuit, 
amp leakage is held to a minimum"" 
so descriptive 

We know Stephen Meyer was a radar technician in the military. 
And radar does use positive pulses for tracking targets and is also used for weather forecasting. 
And we see the 'Harmonic Resonant Cavity' is using a water well and a water jacket. 
The first video is a must-see. 
HAARP-- What is HAARP =ELF 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo-T_KvLNdQ 

This video was on Max U-Tube channel but has since been removed. 
H.A.A.R.P. on 6.792 kHz 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMJ_vzKK4ww 

I’d like to do an update for a better understanding of the primary purpose 
and secondary purpose of the water well and water jacket. 

This is what unifies the 10 Vic’s & the 10 5-TX coil packs. 
By making sure that ALL 10 "Water Capacitors" receive an equal voltage. 

Let me give you another piece of electronics trivia. 
A square wave is made of an infinite number of odd harmonics. 
Please Google this information on your own to get a better understanding. 

The "Harmonic Resonant Cavity" is a very noisy harmonic generator. 

The chokes L1 and L2 are hand wound with a very steady hand traveling evenly back and forth at a slow speed. 
It is next to impossible by hand to make ALL 10 of them exactly identical with a perfect 12 mH spread. 

The water well and the water jacket does 2 things !!! 

Not only does it equalize the voltage on ALL 10 “Water Capacitors”. 
It also generates the harmonics! 

I call it the World’s Noisiest Harmonic Generator. 
Stan calls it the "Harmonic Resonant Cavity" !!! 
One of the descriptors that Stan uses is “Electron Bounce Phenomenon” 

Try to visualize ALL 10 5-XT coil packs each producing 2500 sharp pulses per carrier positive pulse frequency of 5K hertz. 
Look up amplitude modulated wave and cut it in half to get a rough idea of what's taking place. 
And tell me if you don’t see fractured and broken electron bonds bouncing off the water jacket and water well. 

10 "Water Capacitors" = with an anode and cathode = 20 connections. 
The # 11 cell is a "Water Heater" and takes 2 connections for a grand total of 22. 
There's also another "Resonator Water Heater" in the 20 gallon water tank !!! 

Ask Max Miller if it gets cold in Ohio! 

How would you keep the water from shorting out the connections. 
It was taken apart and obviously the solid rubber grommet was removed. 

Why I ask you do you need such a large rectangular hole to accommodate two pair of wires. 

To be clear, '1' pair of wires for the water heater and the other pair of wires for the series set up that we see in other photographs. 
But obviously you need to tune 1 water capacitor per VIC !!! 
You have 3 potentiometers on the front side of the VIC chassis and they have a lockdown lock nuts. 
I believe the word I'm looking for is called calibration. 

Remember Stan went through a lot of trouble to insulate the cathode 2.75 inch tube T304 stainless steel. 
And a 4 inch rod T304 Stainless steel with the cap on top! 
With O-rings to make them absolutely watertight !!! 

In order for voltage to do the work in the gap that is 2.75 inches long waveguide! 

Note for Better understanding

 

we have several generations of technology

tube cell

11 cell

injector

 

one Patent states the INSIDE diameter of the cathode and the other states the OUTSIDE diameter of the cathode.

 

Also, one Patent has a solid rod anode and the other a tubular anode. A solid rod anode inside a cathode tube may have different performance characteristics from an anode tube inside a cathode tube.

 

1.Don Gable’s sketches for a solid rod anode and tubular cathode:- a) Cathode outer tube OUTSIDE diameter MEASURED as 0.75, b) Cathode outer tube wall thickness MEASURED as 0.03, c) Cathode outer tube INSIDE diameter BY CALCULATION = 0.69 (i.e. 0.75 – (2 x 0.03)) d) Anode SOLID ROD diameter MEASURED as 0.5, e) Gap between INSIDE surface of cathode tube and the surface of the SOLID anode rod BY CALCULATION = 0.095 (i.e. (0.69 – 0.5)/2)

 

2. World Patent WO92/07861 dated 14 May 1992 for a solid rod anode and tubular cathode:- a) Cathode outer tube OUTSIDE diameter NOT STATED, b) Cathode outer tube wall thickness NOT STATED and CANNOT BE CALCULATED, c) Cathode outer tube INSIDE diameter STATED in Patent as 0.75 d) Anode SOLID ROD diameter STATED in Patent as 0.5, e) Gap between INSIDE surface of cathode tube and the surface of the SOLID anode rod NOT STATED in Patent but BY CALCULATION = 0.125 (i.e. (0.75 – 0.5) / 2)

 

3. US Patent US4936961 dated 26 June 1990 for a TUBULAR anode and a tubular cathode:- a) Cathode outer tube OUTSIDE diameter STATED in Patent as 0.75, b) Cathode outer tube wall thickness NOT STATED but CALCULATED as 0.0625 i.e. ((outside diameter of 0.75 – (2 x 0.0625 gap stated in Patent) – 0.5 anode outside diameter)) / 2 = 0.0625 thickness of cathode tube wall, c) Cathode outer tube INSIDE diameter NOT STATED but CALCULATED as (0.5 anode diameter + (2x 0.0625 gap) = 0.625, d) Anode TUBE outside diameter STATED in Patent as 0.5, e) Gap between INSIDE surface of cathode tube and the OUTER surface of the Anode TUBE STATED in Patent as 0.0625 f) Anode TUBE thickness not STATED and cannot be CALCULATED g) Anode TUBE inside diameter not STATED and cannot be CALCULATED

 

So we have three different gaps between the electrodes: Don Gable = 0.095, World Patent = 0.125 and US Patent = 0.0625 The World Patent was nearly 2 years after the US Patent. Obviously the capacitance of these cathode/anode combinations is very different.

I would like to adress the fact that when hydrogen and oxygen 
bubbles replaces the water molecules in the cavity between the tubes (or the plates
or whatever your WFC is made of) then the intrinsic capacitance of the cell must 
change accordingly, alongside with the resistance between the tubes aswell.

This further warrants the need for a PLL which maintains the 'resonance' frequency
and enables the voltage in the cell to rise even further due to the increasingly 
amount of bubbles that's being produced in there.
As the resistance increases in the cell, the voltage can increase aswell, this should
produce some form of step charge, which I think is the main thing to try to find 
here.

Moving to a Technical brief page soon 

 

Resistor water Capacitence Control 

 

Let me see if I can help explain my thought process... Basically, what's going on here is the RC time constant equation.  (whether or not we can actually use it... I'm working on that.)

The idea is that the inductor is the "resistor" with which the capacitor will charge.

T=RxC

We want to charge the cap to a voltage within a given period of time.
At resonance Xl and Xc cancel. Thus, leaving the actual resistance and a very low charging time. (aka the cap charges quickly.)

If we increase our frequency above the resonant frequency, the inductor has most of the "reactance".  Which means the inductor has a higher "resistance", which limits your current into the capacitor. Thus, taking longer to charge the Cap.

Once the cap is fully charged, what would happen if you came back down to the resonant frequency?  That's my question. :D

Does that help clarify?

 

 

When would the ...[capacitor] be "fully charged"?

T=RxCT in secondsR in OhmsC in FaradsResistance * Capacitance = time it takes to charge the capacitor to ~63% of applied voltage.After about 5 time constants you have most of your voltage across the cell.http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/rc/rc_1.htmlhttp://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/rc/rc_2.htmlhttp://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/rc/rc_3.htmlhttp://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_16/4.htmlhttp://www.wisc-online.com/objects/ViewObject.aspx?ID=DCE10604http://www.referencedesigner.com/rfcal/cal_05.phpGrob, Bernard. "23-4 RC Time Constant Pg. 637." Basic Electronics. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1984. N. pag. Print.Serway, Raymond A., and John W. Jewett. "21-9 RC Circuits Pg. 788." Principles of Physics: A Calculus-based Text. Fort Worth: Harcourt College, 2002. N. pag. Print.Petruzella, Frank D. "30-8 RC-Time Constant Pg 369." Essentials of Electronics: A Survey. New York, NY: Glencoe, 1993. N. pag. Print.

 

Quote from Lynx on January 18th, 2013, 04:42 AM

 

As soon as you put some voltage over the cell it will immediately start producing
gas through conventional brute force water electrolysis

You are quite right.
However, the reactance of the inductor is the "resistance" with which the capacitor charges to a specified voltage.

We're not dealing with straight DC.  I.E. conditions are constantly changing due to the frequency.
Thus, we're taking advantage of the "transient response" time  of both an inductor and a capacitor.

Re-Calculated for a time to charge the cap in 1 sec.

I wound up with a frequency around 126.5 Mega Hertz

 

WATER FUEL CELL Technical Brief (Working on the XC XL and Impedance Matching)

 

Here is something i found that i find interesting about impedance matching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyMH8wKK-Ag    Part One

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZBMfDvWF4U     Part Two

 

​I now have the same voltages on the positive as i do the negitave. At 12volts input, and very few m/amps, needle on amp meter does not go above zero. Don't have a digital amp meter on my power supply. With a 50x probe across the cell i am charging the cell up to and over 1800 volts peak to peak spikes. Moving in the right direction but i'm understanding things as i go.

I now have the same voltages on the positive as i do the negitave. At 12volts input, and very few m/amps, needle on amp meter does not go above zero. Don't have a digital amp meter on my power supply. With a 50x probe across the cell i am charging the cell up to and over 1800 volts peak to peak spikes. Moving in the right direction but i'm understanding things as i go.

50x probe!!! this's why Stan need a feed back coil!!great work.

No gate Frequency, choke on positive side is 370 uh choke on negative side is alot larger, i will have to take the neg. out when i am finished testing to get the value of it. Just use a large inductor on the negative side. The cell i am using is 8" long .750" inner tube outside dia. the outer tube inside dia. is .875"

 

Found some more of that info we were trying to dig up.  Looks like we should've just read it again. :D
Section 7-10: "circuit resistance"
Section 7-11/12: "transformer action"

eq 25
eq 26
&
eq 27

Still reading through and digesting it all.

Also, Still working on getting an inductor formula down.  These are the closest things I've found that match Stan's "Multi-Layer Coil" Section 7-7.  Which is based on an air core formula.
http://www.circuits.dk/calculator_multi_layer_aircore.htm
http://www.coolcircuit.com/tools/multi_layer_coil_calculator/
http://www.pronine.ca/multind.htm
http://microblog.routed.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/pancakewheel.pdf
http://coil32.narod.ru/faq-en.html
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?topic=1509.0

 

 

to make those inductance calculations for core windings the material specific AL value is useful. Have in mind that most existing inductors are multi-layer spools. the air core is a very special case. most times there are different core materials in use.

If you are lucky the core manufacturer has calculated an AL value for the selected core. Otherwise you must calculate it by yourself.
you can also measure the AL value in an easy manner: you make 10 turns of isolated wire around the core and measure the inductance value

then AL = measured value / 100 .


The AL value makes things quite easy:

L = N^2 * AL (nH)

that way you can easily calculate an inductance value for a selected core at a given number of turns.

You can see that AL value, a core size and core material specific parameter has great influence on the inductance value at a given winding count.

that way a core with high AL value gives a targeted inductance with less turns than a core with smaller AL value.

take http://www.epcos.com/inf/80/db/fer_07/pm_87_70.pdf as an example.

An inductor is an energy storage device. 
the process is pictorically shown at http://www.wisc-online.com/objects/V...px?ID=DCE10304.

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an international collective of Hot Rodders photographers, writers & drivers with a shared passion for promoting the world's most exciting

Hydrogen car culture stories.

Team Secure

Editor in Chief: Daniel Donatelli 
Senior Editor: Simone White
Editor at Large: Johny Case
Commercial Director: Willem Coetzee
Community Manager: Ryan
Butters
Technical Editor: Jason Nash
Concept Artist:  Samuel Hill
Senior Contributors:  Jacky Bright
Contributors:  Sally Smith, Joanne Livey, Bruce Smith.

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